On Friday evening, the Seimas heard the information of the head and deputy head of the Ministry of Defense about violations in the Smolensk sub-committee, Antony Macerevich, as well as the information of the Minister of Justice about the progress of the Smolensk disaster investigation. Macerevich himself took part in the negotiations.
On Friday evening, the Seimas heard the information of the head of the Ministry of National Defense about the revealed violations in the activities of the Smolensk sub-commission headed by Antoni Macerevich and the information of the Minister of Justice and the Prosecutor General about the investigation of Smolensk. disaster
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The head of the Ministry of Defense, Deputy Prime Minister Vladyslav Kosiniak-Kamys, told about the report prepared by the expert group organized by the Ministry of National Defense to investigate the activities of the Smolensk sub-commission. As a result of this news, 41 reports were sent to the prosecutor's office, including 24 against Macerevich himself.
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The minister emphasized that the group that examines the work of the subcommittee is made up of non-political experts and focused only on the activities of the subcommittee and not on the causes of the disaster. As he said, the team checked the work of the sub-commission in four areas: legality, expediency, reliability, and economy, and found deficiencies in all of them.
Kosiniak-Kamys: The team assessed the activity of the Smolensk subcommittee negatively in all the investigated aspectsTVN24
“He wasn't interested in explaining the reasons.”
Kosiniak-Kamys, among other things, noted that the rules for appointing the commission, regardless of the conditions, were adapted to Macerevich's needs, including. involved the cancellation of the powers of the State Commission for the Investigation of Aviation Accidents. Moreover, – as he said – the commission did not have the authority to cancel the previous report on the causes of the so-called natural disaster. Miller Report. The head of the Ministry of National Defense expressed gratitude and apology to the members of the Jerzy Miller commission “on behalf of the Republic of Poland for their position over the years.”
He also emphasized that “for more than six years, the subcommittee has not been able to make conclusions and recommendations to prevent the recurrence of such disasters.” He assessed that the subcommittee “is not interested in explaining the reasons, because it had already invented the reason, the main task (was) to prove the thesis about the explosion.
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Turning to PiS, Kosiniak-Kamysh said she expected an environment with such strong public support to “count eight years of activity on this issue” and read the report.
Head of the Ministry of National Defense: the subcommittee includes unqualified people
Kosiniak-Kamysz said that the sub-committee acted chaotically, without any work plan. – People with the necessary qualifications were appointed to the sub-commission, as a result of which the research material was evaluated incorrectly, – he said.
He assessed that the purpose and effectiveness of the work of the sub-committee is also to “further create social divisions and divide the society”. He accused Macerevich of acting and behaving “to destroy the memory of the victims of the Smolensk disaster, to destroy the national community, to endanger Poland.” “This is a premeditated and completely prepared action,” he said.
Vladyslav Kosiniak-Kamys about the Smolensk party committee. The entire speech of TVN24
“Unfortunately, this is very sad for each of our circles, because each of our circles experienced the leadership of President (Yaroslav) Kaczynski, because his brother, the late president Professor Lech Kaczynski, and his wife were killed,” he continued. He added that the last president-in-exile, Ryzard Kaczorowski, and “his colleagues from the PSL, (…) the most important commanders of the Polish army” were also killed. According to him, “we were immersed in a war that someone started and ignited.” – This is not allowed and this report is to show the truth, to put an end to this division – he said.
Tomchik about “theft of evidence from the prosecutor's office”
The Deputy Minister of National Defense Cesari Tomchik addressed PiS and said: – You used the state apparatus (…) to steal evidence from the prosecutor's office.
– There has never been such a case in the world that someone tried to confiscate evidence from the prosecutor's office using the state – the military police, – but you resisted here, – he continued and said to Macerevich, who was there was sitting courtroom
He reported that on July 18 and 19, 2016, with the help of the military police, the then head of the Smolensk sub-committee, Vaslav Berchinsky, “without the consent of the National Prosecutor's Office, seized the evidence of the Air Force Technological Institute – parts of the Tupolev ship that crashed near Smolensk.”
– This activity was carried out on the basis of the written order of the Minister of National Defense Antoni Macerevich from July 18, 2016, – said Tomchik. He recalled that then-Deputy Attorney General Marek Pasionek demanded the chairman “immediately return the weapons illegally acquired by the subcommittee.”
– This case will also be fully resolved, – assured Tomchik.
Tomczyk approached Macerevic, who was sitting on the PiS parliamentary seat, and showed him one of TVN24's magazines.
“On October 24, the lie of Smolensk ended with the publication of the news.”
Tomchik stated that “on October 24, the lie of Smolensk ended.” – With the publication of the report, with the presentation of evidence that is as clear as day, everyone will draw a conclusion there, – he said.
He added that the 800-page report “is an indictment against Macerević and the people who worked with him”. Tomczyk also stated that the Ministry of National Defense, led by Macerevich, took steps to destroy the materials related to the Jerzy Miller commission, including the reports prepared by it. As he said, one of the few copies remained in the prime minister's office.
The deputy minister indicated that “it was Jerzy Miller's commission that determined the causes of the accident.” – And this was a collision with a tree, terrain and ground obstacles. And this is the result of the work of the Polish commission, which consists of Polish specialists, and not, as you said, the Russian commission. It was a Polish commission and a Polish investigation, Tomczyk said, referring to Macerewicz's allegations of possible Russian influence on the work of the Miller commission.
He also accused PiS politicians of “turning a national catastrophe into a political tragedy.”
Another notice to the prosecution? Tomczyk does not exclude this
In the report that the collective brigade. Leszek Blah noted the connection between Antoni Macerevich and citizen of the Russian Federation Alexander Glaskov.
On Friday, Tomczyk also shared other information in the Sejm. – Antoni Macerevich announced a few days ago that he is meeting with other Russians. I quote: “I met many Russians, including pilots.” I would like to say that we have a problem. I checked today and in this case you have not submitted any report or information to the Military Counter Intelligence Service and you have not notified any service. (…) This is an issue that requires clarification in the coming weeks, but in my opinion, we are not dealing with 41 notifications to the prosecutor's office, but 42 notifications, – said the deputy head of the Ministry of National Defense. .
Bodnar: the explanation of the Smolensk disaster must be completed
The Minister of Justice, Attorney General Adam Bodnar Seim informed about the investigation of the natural disaster.
The investigation is currently being conducted by the investigative group number 1 of the National Prosecutor's Office headed by prosecutor Krzysztof Schwartz. – Today we had a meeting of the national consultation of prosecutors, during which prosecutor Schwartz said that he wants to end this trial with such decisions that they defended themselves and closed all the open doors, – reports Bodnar.
– We owe it to the Polish society, we owe it to the victims, and we owe it to the families of the victims to clarify this issue in a complete and uniform way, – emphasized the Minister of Justice.
He added that it is also about ensuring that “those responsible for breaking the law, including spreading falsehoods, are brought to justice.”
Bodnar also mentioned that on Friday he established an investigative team at the National Prosecutor's Office to investigate violations in the activities of the so-called organization. Subcommittee Macerevich. – It is really sad that the prosecutor's office is dealing with this. I am sorry to say that after reading the report submitted by Kosiniak-Kamysh and Tomczyk, the prosecutor's office has to work with the various warnings contained in this report, Bodnar noted.
He added that “instead of dealing with the usual issues of prosecuting criminals, prosecutors must now analyze the numerous allegations of abuse of power, concealment of evidence and other cases mentioned in this report.” – But I think that this is so important from the point of view of public interest and to explain this lie spread in the public debate, that I decided to organize a special investigative group, – said Bodnar.
He said he hoped that the prosecutors assigned to this investigative group “will explain with their attention, expertise and professionalism everything that happened and why the Smolensk sub-committee and its members allowed various cases of abuse of power.”
Bodnar also emphasized that, in addition to the issues related to the activities of the Macerevich subcommission, “we should not forget the need to complete a comprehensive legal and criminal investigation of the TU-154 plane crash.”
– I look into the eyes of Barbara Novaka, who for me represents all the families of the victims. This is my personal responsibility to you, Barbara, she concluded. The mother of the Minister of Education Izabela Jaruga-Novacka was one of the victims of the flight to Smolensk.
Bodnar: This is my personal responsibility to you, Barbara
Macerevich: the subcommittee proved that we are dealing with an explosion
After the speech of the leadership of the Ministry of National Defense and the Minister of Justice, Macerevich spoke on behalf of the PiS club. – The essence of the actions of the Ministry of National Defense and the current authorities is the statement that I hate the investigation of Russian crimes, the investigation of Russian crimes divides the Polish nation, – said the representative of PiS.
Macerevic also accused Defense Minister Władysław Kosiniak-Kamysh of “stupid lying”. – Unbelievable. Kosiniak-Kamys says that the sub-commission has not made any conclusions. that the sub-committee did not define a specific position. that the sub-commission did not prove anything. The subcommittee proved and clearly stated that we are engaged in blowing up this plane, – said Macerevich.
Maceriewicz also presented the members with a board with pictures showing characteristically bent and bent metal elements; on the second board, he showed a picture of the TU-154 plane, where, according to him, the places where the explosions should take place were indicated.
The deputy marshal turned off the microphone of Macerevich TVN24
After the end of the speech, Macerevich stood on the podium for a moment, presented the boards, and spoke even though the microphone was off. For this, he was reprimanded by the Deputy Chairman of the Diet, Dorota Nidziela, who was presiding over the meeting.
PiS deputies appreciated Macerevich's speech with loud applause. After it ended, Macherevych and almost all PiS deputies were present and left the hall of the Sejm.
After a while, the vice-president of PiS returned to the meeting and demanded a vote in the form of an amendment. The deputy speaker of the parliament said that he will have such an opportunity after completing a number of questions signed by other members of the parliament.
At the end of the discussion, Macerevich was given a minute to make amends. He went too far this time too, and despite turning off the microphone, the speech situation repeated itself. In his speech, he again spoke about the “infinite number of lies”.
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